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- Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:13 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: 6.3 Veterans Ranking
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8070
Re: 6.3 Veterans Ranking
The motion looks long and complicated, because of the ground that has to be covered and the nature of a rulebook. But it can be summarised: * All Vets will be in one division * Registered Vets can enter any ranking competition * Points are allocated by comparison with the equivalent divisional event...
- Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:48 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: 6.1 ACM Voting
- Replies: 30
- Views: 18908
Re: 6.1 ACM Voting
As I said, I'm not sure the present arrangement is the best option: but it isn't more democratic to give a club of three influence equal to a club of 100.
- Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:41 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: 6.13 Entry Refundable 75/25
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4227
Re: 6.13 Entry Refundable 75/25
I suggest organiser's discretion, whether the entry can be replaced or not.
- Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:44 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: 6.2 Division 1 / 2 Competitions
- Replies: 10
- Views: 6697
Re: 6.2 Division 1 / 2 Competitions
Having Div 1 races that are Div 1 only has made things a lot clearer for course designers. Div 1/2s were always supposed to be set to a Div 1 standard, but many of us will remember courses where the Div 1s were badly short-changed, with a dumbed-down course and good water wasted, apparently because ...
- Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:25 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: 6.1 ACM Voting
- Replies: 30
- Views: 18908
Re: 6.1 ACM Voting
All clubs are NOT equal Proposal 6.1, "ALL clubs should have equal voting powers" sounds very reasonable until you realise that it gives a club with 3 ranked paddlers the same influence as one with a hundred or more. I'm puzzled by the preamble: it reads as though the writer hasn't understood the r...
- Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:26 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
So you must get your case in early next month. No. (B 3.1) ...applications must be in writing and received by the 31st October. Email is OK, and John might stretch a point on the date for a good case, but there's not a lot of time left. Usually the only criteria accepted are long-term injury and wo...
- Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:11 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
Jim W said "putting the lower capacity events early and the higher capacity events later in the year" Nice idea, but capacity is dictated mainly by water time, the time of year (shorter daylight hours, for example) and other factors outside our control. But thinking further: if Prem and Div 1 races...
- Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:44 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
Windsor says "Should we agree now ideal numbers for Prem, Div 1 and Div 2, ensuring a pyramid..?" The Committee have been pursuing a pyramid for the past twelve years. Every year they review the division stucture and demote towards a target pyramid. We get closest to it in K1M, because the numbers ...
- Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:46 am
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
James says "I know of no other sport in which a divisional system is used that has more promotees than demotees." I find that odd, because the other factor is dropout. Every year life happens and a substantial number of paddlers drop out, and drop off the lists. That's the (more or less) balancing ...
- Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:04 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
Dave brads wrote: I really should check my facts! Andy is quite right that very few paddlers have been promoted as a result of a PU result. Having got Duncan to check the facts (amazing what he can get out of the database) they are that, out of all promotions from Div 2 to Div 1 this year: * 2 K1 w...
- Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:13 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
JimW wrote: ...why are the div 2 races on harder water struggling? It may be because promotion to Div 1 is stripping Div 2 of the paddlers who would have relished a challenge. Across all classes, about 100 paddlers a year get up to Div 1, and they must logically be the keenest and most capable. Dav...
- Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:41 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
I’m not sure Nick’s suggestion would make much difference. A vast majority of the Div 2 promotees have their best 5 results comfortably in their last 12 events. Acknowledged. Andy's proposed new promotion targets are quite a drastic shift. The trouble with changing targets is that it's hard to pred...
- Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:15 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Re: Ranking and Promotion
After all, are we really 'Holding people back' as it may not be a bad thing to spend at least one season in each of the 4 divisions currently available. Yes, Steve, we are. To a great extent we are talking about teenagers whose development can be explosive: from time to time a complete newcomer mak...
- Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:02 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: C2 Structure for 2018 Season
- Replies: 60
- Views: 45496
Re: C2 Structure for 2018 Season
ref C34.12 it states - " If there are 10 or more starters a second prize will be awarded". It wasn't adhered to probably because it is just the C2 class. I doubt this was some sort of prejudice against C2s. I don't know the facts for this race, but scratch C2s in particular are very often last-minu...
- Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:05 pm
- Forum: Rants and Raves
- Topic: Ranking and Promotion
- Replies: 49
- Views: 30651
Ranking and Promotion
Each year the sport gets top-heavy with more paddlers than we can cope with in Prem and Div 1, and worthwhile competition is stripped out of Div 2 and Div 3. The "easy" solution is to raise the promotion targets, but I don't think that's the best option. The real issue is that Div 2 and Div 3 paddle...